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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 23:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric,
I hope you find it useful and enjoyable. Your comments are welcome.
Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
I hope you find it useful and enjoyable. Your comments are welcome.<br />
Rob</p>
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		By: Eric COMMARATO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric COMMARATO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rob,

You have a wonderful web site here with a wealth of information.  I have been a woodworker for many years and I am just now finding your Blog.  Thank you so much for making this available.  

Eric]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>You have a wonderful web site here with a wealth of information.  I have been a woodworker for many years and I am just now finding your Blog.  Thank you so much for making this available.  </p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 02:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By the way, the issues of wide bevel angles and low clearance angles creating a faster loss of functional sharpness are yet more reasons why it is, in my opinion, just plain wrong for bevel-up planes to be bedded at 12 degrees, as almost all of them are (the exceptions being among a few boutique makers). I would like write about this again soon. Who knows, maybe the Lees will eventually see it my way. Ha.  

Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the issues of wide bevel angles and low clearance angles creating a faster loss of functional sharpness are yet more reasons why it is, in my opinion, just plain wrong for bevel-up planes to be bedded at 12 degrees, as almost all of them are (the exceptions being among a few boutique makers). I would like write about this again soon. Who knows, maybe the Lees will eventually see it my way. Ha.  </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 02:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Carl,

Here&#039;s my intuitive explanation. Imagine you are trying to dull an edge by abrading it with sandpaper to the point where you can&#039;t cut your finger with it. Which edge would become wide enough to get to this point sooner: a 25 deg bevel or a 45 deg bevel? They may start out equally sharp, i.e. a very narrow &quot;nothing&quot; edge, but the 45 deg bevel would widen (dull) faster.

The most succinct description of wear bevel issues that I&#039;ve ever read was very recently, an article by Terry Gordon in Furniture and Cabinetmaking magazine, issue#276 (November 2018), pp. 48-51. There are long articles on Steve Elliot&#039;s and Brent Beach&#039;s sites but the article I cited explains it elegantly.

In practice, there&#039;s no question for me - when I use I big fat bevel angle (e.g. 45 deg) in a bevel-up smoothing plane to reduce tearout, it dulls fast. It works great when it&#039;s fresh but not for long. By the way, there&#039;s another issue, which is the loss of clearance angle in that situation. Terry explains that beautifully as well.

This is one of those things that&#039;s true in theory and true in the shop.

Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my intuitive explanation. Imagine you are trying to dull an edge by abrading it with sandpaper to the point where you can&#8217;t cut your finger with it. Which edge would become wide enough to get to this point sooner: a 25 deg bevel or a 45 deg bevel? They may start out equally sharp, i.e. a very narrow &#8220;nothing&#8221; edge, but the 45 deg bevel would widen (dull) faster.</p>
<p>The most succinct description of wear bevel issues that I&#8217;ve ever read was very recently, an article by Terry Gordon in Furniture and Cabinetmaking magazine, issue#276 (November 2018), pp. 48-51. There are long articles on Steve Elliot&#8217;s and Brent Beach&#8217;s sites but the article I cited explains it elegantly.</p>
<p>In practice, there&#8217;s no question for me &#8211; when I use I big fat bevel angle (e.g. 45 deg) in a bevel-up smoothing plane to reduce tearout, it dulls fast. It works great when it&#8217;s fresh but not for long. By the way, there&#8217;s another issue, which is the loss of clearance angle in that situation. Terry explains that beautifully as well.</p>
<p>This is one of those things that&#8217;s true in theory and true in the shop.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		By: Carl Stammerjohn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Stammerjohn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious about your second edge-endurance example. I have never heard that a larger bevel angle would have a shorter working life than a narrower angle. Can you explain further?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious about your second edge-endurance example. I have never heard that a larger bevel angle would have a shorter working life than a narrower angle. Can you explain further?</p>
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