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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2013/04/25/east-meets-west-my-saws-part-7/#comment-120940</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 04:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Peter. It&#039;s a long slow road but there is progress.
Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Peter. It&#8217;s a long slow road but there is progress.<br />
Rob</p>
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		By: Peter Oster		</title>
		<link>https://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2013/04/25/east-meets-west-my-saws-part-7/#comment-120933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Oster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How is the shoulder?  Hopefully you are back in the shop]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the shoulder?  Hopefully you are back in the shop</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2013/04/25/east-meets-west-my-saws-part-7/#comment-120894</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Adrian,

Sorry for the confusion. Different sources for Pegas blades list slightly different specs. The blade I am suggesting is indeed the SK3 on the Ben&#039;s Scroll Saw site. It is the Pegas #3 skip tooth blade. For the record, I measured one of my #3 blades at .012&quot; thick, .034 wide, and 20 tpi.

The performance of the #3 is not a major difference from the #5, but I have found it cleaner and, surprisingly, faster. It has slightly less beam strength - it bows a bit more - than the #5 and #7, but I don&#039;t find that to be a problem.

Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian,</p>
<p>Sorry for the confusion. Different sources for Pegas blades list slightly different specs. The blade I am suggesting is indeed the SK3 on the Ben&#8217;s Scroll Saw site. It is the Pegas #3 skip tooth blade. For the record, I measured one of my #3 blades at .012&#8243; thick, .034 wide, and 20 tpi.</p>
<p>The performance of the #3 is not a major difference from the #5, but I have found it cleaner and, surprisingly, faster. It has slightly less beam strength &#8211; it bows a bit more &#8211; than the #5 and #7, but I don&#8217;t find that to be a problem.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		By: Adrian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been using #5 skip tooth pegas blades for dovetailing, but I&#039;ve never tried anything smaller, so I figured I&#039;d try your recommended blades.  But I grew confused when I was comparing the specs you listed in the post with the specs on Ben&#039;s site.  You say your favored blade has 19 tpi but no 19 tpi blades are listed on that site.  So I just wanted to confirm that the blade you like (whatever the specs might be) is the Pegas skip tooth #3, which Ben lists as &quot;SK3&quot; on his site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using #5 skip tooth pegas blades for dovetailing, but I&#8217;ve never tried anything smaller, so I figured I&#8217;d try your recommended blades.  But I grew confused when I was comparing the specs you listed in the post with the specs on Ben&#8217;s site.  You say your favored blade has 19 tpi but no 19 tpi blades are listed on that site.  So I just wanted to confirm that the blade you like (whatever the specs might be) is the Pegas skip tooth #3, which Ben lists as &#8220;SK3&#8221; on his site.</p>
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		By: Bailey		</title>
		<link>https://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2013/04/25/east-meets-west-my-saws-part-7/#comment-120709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bailey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi again Rob,

So after I posted the comment I realized that I hadn&#039;t taken a full look at the sides of my chisels, so I went home and looked and right you are, they are cut with a side beveled as well as a face perpendicular to the bottom (face?) of the chisel.  Not sure why I had never noticed that before.  Even my best chisels (Pfeils) had them, although they are smaller on those than others.  So I retract my prior statement and agree with you about chisel companies needing to refine their chisel shape.  Thanks for giving me one more thing to complain about! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Rob,</p>
<p>So after I posted the comment I realized that I hadn&#8217;t taken a full look at the sides of my chisels, so I went home and looked and right you are, they are cut with a side beveled as well as a face perpendicular to the bottom (face?) of the chisel.  Not sure why I had never noticed that before.  Even my best chisels (Pfeils) had them, although they are smaller on those than others.  So I retract my prior statement and agree with you about chisel companies needing to refine their chisel shape.  Thanks for giving me one more thing to complain about! :)</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2013/04/25/east-meets-west-my-saws-part-7/#comment-120691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Tico,

The KC fret saw with the #3 blade (5&quot; plain end blades) is great for removing dovetail waste. It slides right into the kerf and you can make a nearly 90° turn - no curving the cut and then sawing again to remove the remainder.

I have not had a problem with twisting, even in 3/4&quot; wood.

The blade does bow back when I hurry the cut but I just slow it up near the end, which I would always do anyway because I don&#039;t want the blade to jump out at the end of the cut and nick the tail.

The KC fret saw has really changed dovetailing for me.

Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tico,</p>
<p>The KC fret saw with the #3 blade (5&#8243; plain end blades) is great for removing dovetail waste. It slides right into the kerf and you can make a nearly 90° turn &#8211; no curving the cut and then sawing again to remove the remainder.</p>
<p>I have not had a problem with twisting, even in 3/4&#8243; wood.</p>
<p>The blade does bow back when I hurry the cut but I just slow it up near the end, which I would always do anyway because I don&#8217;t want the blade to jump out at the end of the cut and nick the tail.</p>
<p>The KC fret saw has really changed dovetailing for me.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2013/04/25/east-meets-west-my-saws-part-7/#comment-120690</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bailey,

Thanks for reading and for the kind words.

Many bench chisels have a 90° side &quot;bevel&quot; of significant height, which can make it harder, though still possible, to clean out the corners when cutting the tails. 

Some people contend this is not a problem with any chisel because the saw kerf itself gives adequate clearance. Yea, true, IF you stop your saw cut fully up to (never beyond) the baseline. As a practical matter it does help a lot to have chisels with either a minimal land on the sides, like L-N&#039;s, or the Japanese style that I discussed in the post that I linked to. 

Some authors, I think Lonnie Bird is one, have suggested modifying the first inch or so of an otherwise unsuitable chisel.

It sounds like what you&#039;re doing is working well for you. Stay with it!

Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bailey,</p>
<p>Thanks for reading and for the kind words.</p>
<p>Many bench chisels have a 90° side &#8220;bevel&#8221; of significant height, which can make it harder, though still possible, to clean out the corners when cutting the tails. </p>
<p>Some people contend this is not a problem with any chisel because the saw kerf itself gives adequate clearance. Yea, true, IF you stop your saw cut fully up to (never beyond) the baseline. As a practical matter it does help a lot to have chisels with either a minimal land on the sides, like L-N&#8217;s, or the Japanese style that I discussed in the post that I linked to. </p>
<p>Some authors, I think Lonnie Bird is one, have suggested modifying the first inch or so of an otherwise unsuitable chisel.</p>
<p>It sounds like what you&#8217;re doing is working well for you. Stay with it!</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		By: Tico Vogt		</title>
		<link>https://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2013/04/25/east-meets-west-my-saws-part-7/#comment-120689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tico Vogt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, I have a question: which is the one to use for dovetail waste, the fret or the coping saw? I tried one of their saws in a shop (don&#039;t remember the model) where the owner was not happy with it for that purpose because the frame flexed quite a bit, not in line with the plane of the frame but corners twisting in opposite directions. I&#039;m sure that is the intended design for some applications but wouldn&#039;t be ideal for dovetail work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I have a question: which is the one to use for dovetail waste, the fret or the coping saw? I tried one of their saws in a shop (don&#8217;t remember the model) where the owner was not happy with it for that purpose because the frame flexed quite a bit, not in line with the plane of the frame but corners twisting in opposite directions. I&#8217;m sure that is the intended design for some applications but wouldn&#8217;t be ideal for dovetail work.</p>
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