Comments on: Developing an alternative rear handle for Veritas planes http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/ inside the woodshop Wed, 16 May 2012 14:51:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rob http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-11754 Rob Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:11:53 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-11754 Peter, Thanks. Good idea! Even having "standard" and "large" options would be helpful. I suggest you present your idea to LN and LV. Rob Peter,

Thanks. Good idea! Even having “standard” and “large” options would be helpful. I suggest you present your idea to LN and LV.

Rob

]]> By: Peter Oster http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-11709 Peter Oster Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:32:47 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-11709 I've checked out the hands of Tom Lie-Nielsen, Schwartz and other plane afficiandos. They all have what my mom called "piano player hands", narrow palms and long fingers. My friends with similar hands all like the older Stanley's with the very sensuous totes. Now us guys with big mitts seem to like the upright, hand filling Veritats totes alot better. If you keep up with firearms the current wave of handguns come with the option of small, medium or large handgrips. It seems like it might have potential for totes. I know I find the totes on my L-Ns a little small. I have a saw coming from Medallion Toolworks that is custom made to my grip. The prototype fits like a glove. I purchased one of Wenzloff's first batch of Kenyon dovetails saws from the WIA original. Beautiful saw that has never touched wood in my hand, the handle is just way to small. About a 2 1/2 finger grip at best. Custom totes and S,M,L options might be the wave of the future. I’ve checked out the hands of Tom Lie-Nielsen, Schwartz and other plane afficiandos. They all have what my mom called “piano player hands”, narrow palms and long fingers. My friends with similar hands all like the older Stanley’s with the very sensuous totes. Now us guys with big mitts seem to like the upright, hand filling Veritats totes alot better.
If you keep up with firearms the current wave of handguns come with the option of small, medium or large handgrips. It seems like it might have potential for totes. I know I find the totes on my L-Ns a little small.
I have a saw coming from Medallion Toolworks that is custom made to my grip. The prototype fits like a glove. I purchased one of Wenzloff’s first batch of Kenyon dovetails saws from the WIA original. Beautiful saw that has never touched wood in my hand, the handle is just way to small. About a 2 1/2 finger grip at best.
Custom totes and S,M,L options might be the wave of the future.

]]> By: Rob http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-10439 Rob Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:03:22 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-10439 Carl, I shaped this prototype by hand because I wanted to test the feel and adjust it as I went along. The PW article referred to in the post has jigs for shaping a handle, but I'd still want to do some hand work after that. I used a flexible shaft to barely get in there with a countersink, but I think your idea would be better! Rob Carl,

I shaped this prototype by hand because I wanted to test the feel and adjust it as I went along. The PW article referred to in the post has jigs for shaping a handle, but I’d still want to do some hand work after that.

I used a flexible shaft to barely get in there with a countersink, but I think your idea would be better!

Rob

]]> By: Carl Stammerjohn http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-10413 Carl Stammerjohn Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:48:42 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-10413 Nice improvement! I, too, find the Veritas totes very uncomfortable. I have tried making a tote and rounding edges on a router table, but it's not easy. Tearout and fingers close to the bit are two issues. I'm curious; how did you countersink the short-bolt hole? There doesn't seem to be clearance above the hole to get a bit in there. My solution for a similar situation in the past was to drill the hole (from the bottom), then with the bit protruding through the hole, attach a Fuller countersink (at the end of the bit, upside down), reverse the drill, and pull the countersink down. Thanks for the description. Nice improvement! I, too, find the Veritas totes very uncomfortable. I have tried making a tote and rounding edges on a router table, but it’s not easy. Tearout and fingers close to the bit are two issues.

I’m curious; how did you countersink the short-bolt hole? There doesn’t seem to be clearance above the hole to get a bit in there. My solution for a similar situation in the past was to drill the hole (from the bottom), then with the bit protruding through the hole, attach a Fuller countersink (at the end of the bit, upside down), reverse the drill, and pull the countersink down.

Thanks for the description.

]]> By: Rob http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-10328 Rob Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:02:37 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-10328 Steve, Yea, it's a close call for me with L-N and LV BU planes. +'s and -'s for each, but they're both great tools. Bob makes wonderful tools. Enjoy! http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/12/23/ok-tools-and-excellent-tools/ Rob Steve,

Yea, it’s a close call for me with L-N and LV BU planes. +’s and -’s for each, but they’re both great tools.

Bob makes wonderful tools. Enjoy!
http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/12/23/ok-tools-and-excellent-tools/

Rob

]]> By: SteveH. http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-10272 SteveH. Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:24:00 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-10272 Rob- This is why I have gone (almost) exlusively with LN planes and chisels. They just seem to fit my fat fingers better than the LV. Like you, I would rather be building things than repairing my tools. I have a couple of old Stanleys and I made them more comfy by using some sandpaper. BTW, I got a marking knife and bird cage awl from Bob based mainly on your recommendation. YOU ARE RIGHT! Haven't used them extensively yet, but they are beautiful and fit my hands very well. Best wishes, Steve. Rob-

This is why I have gone (almost) exlusively with LN planes and chisels. They just seem to fit my fat fingers better than the LV. Like you, I would rather be building things than repairing my tools. I have a couple of old Stanleys and I made them more comfy by using some sandpaper.

BTW, I got a marking knife and bird cage awl from Bob based mainly on your recommendation. YOU ARE RIGHT! Haven’t used them extensively yet, but they are beautiful and fit my hands very well.

Best wishes,
Steve.

]]> By: Rob http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-10152 Rob Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:05:45 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-10152 Thanks, Joe. I had not seen that. I looked it over now. It also uses a short front bolt but requires drilling and tapping a new mounting hole for it, though that does not seem too difficult. Looks like an excellent method. Rob Thanks, Joe. I had not seen that. I looked it over now. It also uses a short front bolt but requires drilling and tapping a new mounting hole for it, though that does not seem too difficult. Looks like an excellent method.

Rob

]]> By: Joe Barberich http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/07/10/developing-an-alternative-rear-handle-for-veritas-planes/#comment-10133 Joe Barberich Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:26:48 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=806#comment-10133 Rob, I don't know if you are aware of this, but there is a lady woodworker in England that has on her site a step-by-step inst. on making a more comfy tote for a low angle Veritas plan. Her name is Alf and her site is: www.cornishworkshop.co.uk/planetote.html . -joe Rob,
I don’t know if you are aware of this, but there is a lady woodworker in England that has on her site a step-by-step inst. on making a more comfy tote for a low angle Veritas plan. Her name is Alf and her site is:
http://www.cornishworkshop.co.uk/planetote.html . -joe

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