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	<title>Comments on: Do I need a micro adjuster on my router table fence?</title>
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		<title>By: j nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6817</link>
		<dc:creator>j nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I agree with Rob that there are a many different ways to approach woodworking - for some people ultra precise fences are a valid tool - so please don't take offense at my comment.
 
Repeatability is an issue for a shops that reproduce pieces over a period of time.  However, even shops that do that kind of work often make jigs and save them - repeatability with jigs is pretty much guaranteed and there isn't any time spent switching back to previous settings - the jig is the setting.

However, for one-off projects with small runs of similar parts, fine tuning can be done by running test pieces until you nudge in the exact measurement you want.  When the pieces are cut the entire guide setup can be broken down with no loss because it may never be needed again.  

I'd rather save the money to buy wood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I agree with Rob that there are a many different ways to approach woodworking - for some people ultra precise fences are a valid tool - so please don&#8217;t take offense at my comment.</p>
<p>Repeatability is an issue for a shops that reproduce pieces over a period of time.  However, even shops that do that kind of work often make jigs and save them - repeatability with jigs is pretty much guaranteed and there isn&#8217;t any time spent switching back to previous settings - the jig is the setting.</p>
<p>However, for one-off projects with small runs of similar parts, fine tuning can be done by running test pieces until you nudge in the exact measurement you want.  When the pieces are cut the entire guide setup can be broken down with no loss because it may never be needed again.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather save the money to buy wood.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6805</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, 

Thanks for the comment and for reading. 

I understand the value of repeatability as well as micro adjustability. In my opinion, both of these are usually obviated by what I call direct methods of working which utilize the principles of consistency and one-sided tolerance. 

Furthermore, both repeatability and micro adjustability, when they are occasionally needed, can be achieved with low tech, non-specific tools. When I need a repeatable fence setting, I simply clamp a piece of scrap wood up against the front (or back, as appropriate) edge of each side of the fence.

I acknowledge that there are times when I would probably find something like an Incra fence on my router table to be handy. My point is that for the other 99% of the time, it is expensive over-engineering. Worse for me, is that it would interfere and work against the type of direct, intuitive methods of work that I prefer and that give me the results I want.

That said, I also acknowledge that there are different successful approaches to virtually everything in woodworking. So, while, no, I do not miss the point of a fence like the Incra, I also appreciate the validity of different approaches.

I thank you for your comment since it caused me to think through this again, and, hopefully, articulate it in a useful way.

Respectfully,

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment and for reading. </p>
<p>I understand the value of repeatability as well as micro adjustability. In my opinion, both of these are usually obviated by what I call direct methods of working which utilize the principles of consistency and one-sided tolerance. </p>
<p>Furthermore, both repeatability and micro adjustability, when they are occasionally needed, can be achieved with low tech, non-specific tools. When I need a repeatable fence setting, I simply clamp a piece of scrap wood up against the front (or back, as appropriate) edge of each side of the fence.</p>
<p>I acknowledge that there are times when I would probably find something like an Incra fence on my router table to be handy. My point is that for the other 99% of the time, it is expensive over-engineering. Worse for me, is that it would interfere and work against the type of direct, intuitive methods of work that I prefer and that give me the results I want.</p>
<p>That said, I also acknowledge that there are different successful approaches to virtually everything in woodworking. So, while, no, I do not miss the point of a fence like the Incra, I also appreciate the validity of different approaches.</p>
<p>I thank you for your comment since it caused me to think through this again, and, hopefully, articulate it in a useful way.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6797</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have missed the main point of a fence like the Incra and that is repeatability alongside the micro adjustability.

To be able to switch back instantly to a previous setting saves oodles of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have missed the main point of a fence like the Incra and that is repeatability alongside the micro adjustability.</p>
<p>To be able to switch back instantly to a previous setting saves oodles of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6419</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Pat Warner's approach to the router table. It is the inspiration for mine as I mentioned in the post on building a router table. His router expertise is tops. But I think his fence would be too much for my purposes.

I agree, John. 

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Pat Warner&#8217;s approach to the router table. It is the inspiration for mine as I mentioned in the post on building a router table. His router expertise is tops. But I think his fence would be too much for my purposes.</p>
<p>I agree, John. </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: J Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6404</link>
		<dc:creator>J Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old furniture makers made masterpieces without micrometer adjustments or routers.  We can spend money on tools or spend time developing skill.

A simple tool in the hands of a someone skilled will always produce better work than a complex (and perhaps expensive) tool in the hands of someone unskilled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old furniture makers made masterpieces without micrometer adjustments or routers.  We can spend money on tools or spend time developing skill.</p>
<p>A simple tool in the hands of a someone skilled will always produce better work than a complex (and perhaps expensive) tool in the hands of someone unskilled.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6353</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a micro adjustable router fence from a plan in an old Fine Woodworking magazine. October 2000 No. 144! you should be able to get a back issue!
It is designed Pat Warner fence!
It is strong, flex free and repeatable down to .001!
Here is the link,
http://www.patwarner.com/router_table.html

It is an awesome fence!

Glenn Boyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a micro adjustable router fence from a plan in an old Fine Woodworking magazine. October 2000 No. 144! you should be able to get a back issue!<br />
It is designed Pat Warner fence!<br />
It is strong, flex free and repeatable down to .001!<br />
Here is the link,<br />
<a href="http://www.patwarner.com/router_table.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.patwarner.com/router_table.html</a></p>
<p>It is an awesome fence!</p>
<p>Glenn Boyle</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Bryan. I hope your router table is working well for you.

The micro adjuster that you referenced looks essentially like a shop-made version of the one for sale that I was looking at. If someone really wanted that kind of microadjuster, I guess it would be better than the store bought version since at least you have a choice of screw pitch. 10-32 or 1/4-32 would probably be better choices. 

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Bryan. I hope your router table is working well for you.</p>
<p>The micro adjuster that you referenced looks essentially like a shop-made version of the one for sale that I was looking at. If someone really wanted that kind of microadjuster, I guess it would be better than the store bought version since at least you have a choice of screw pitch. 10-32 or 1/4-32 would probably be better choices. </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2010/03/14/do-i-need-a-micro-adjuster-on-my-router-table-fence/#comment-6213</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob,
I enjoy your blog, and admire your work. Also, I used your router table as a guide to build my own.  Thanks!
I came across a neat micro adjuster jig that I thought you might enjoy.

http://americanwoodworker.com/blogs/tools/archive/2009/09/16/5-router-jigs.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob,<br />
I enjoy your blog, and admire your work. Also, I used your router table as a guide to build my own.  Thanks!<br />
I came across a neat micro adjuster jig that I thought you might enjoy.</p>
<p><a href="http://americanwoodworker.com/blogs/tools/archive/2009/09/16/5-router-jigs.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://americanwoodworker.com/blogs/tools/archive/2009/09/16/5-router-jigs.aspx</a></p>
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