Comments on: The Domino effect http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-domino-effect/ inside the woodshop Mon, 06 Feb 2012 02:49:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Rob http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-domino-effect/#comment-1514 Rob Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:26:26 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=419#comment-1514 Thanks for the tips, Bradley. And good luck with the project, Tico. I hook up the Domino to a Fein vac with the tool-triggered switch which makes the operation nearly dust/chip free. Sean, dude, the biscuits are made of REAL wood. You know, from trees. :-) Rob Thanks for the tips, Bradley.
And good luck with the project, Tico.
I hook up the Domino to a Fein vac with the tool-triggered switch which makes the operation nearly dust/chip free.
Sean, dude, the biscuits are made of REAL wood. You know, from trees. :-)
Rob

]]> By: Sean http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-domino-effect/#comment-1513 Sean Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:27:45 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=419#comment-1513 Trumped up biskits. cuh! pleh! yuk! ;-) Trumped up biskits. cuh! pleh! yuk!

;-)

]]> By: Bradley G http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-domino-effect/#comment-1507 Bradley G Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:36:35 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=419#comment-1507 I just finished 12' of cabinets for my shop with the Domino, as you say the joints are quite strong when made, and I can't think of any forces that could substantially weaken them over time. Mine is a small shop, and I don't have the hours to put down there that I'd like, that being said the Domino has put projects into my reach that simply wouldn't have been considered before due to time restrictions. Tico - I would endorse taking the plunge and using the Domino. If you do decide to use the domino for rails and stiles, I find it easier to hard-mount the domino business end facing up in a cradle or vise (carefully) and bring the work to it. this seems counter intuitive until you try it, in practice I found it a lot easier to have the domino stationary and a stack of rails I could simply push against the machine one by one. With larger parts, I use the machine in-hand like a biscuit joiner. Substantial care is required to make straight joints no matter whether the machine or the workpiece is loose, I've never had a bad joint off the machine that wasn't my fault, but I've had plenty that were my fault. Chips and debris between the domino and the workpiece throwing the resulting joint out of wack are a common cause of expletives in my shop, so watch out for that. Practice helps, as with all woodworking. I just finished 12′ of cabinets for my shop with the Domino, as you say the joints are quite strong when made, and I can’t think of any forces that could substantially weaken them over time. Mine is a small shop, and I don’t have the hours to put down there that I’d like, that being said the Domino has put projects into my reach that simply wouldn’t have been considered before due to time restrictions. Tico - I would endorse taking the plunge and using the Domino. If you do decide to use the domino for rails and stiles, I find it easier to hard-mount the domino business end facing up in a cradle or vise (carefully) and bring the work to it. this seems counter intuitive until you try it, in practice I found it a lot easier to have the domino stationary and a stack of rails I could simply push against the machine one by one. With larger parts, I use the machine in-hand like a biscuit joiner. Substantial care is required to make straight joints no matter whether the machine or the workpiece is loose, I’ve never had a bad joint off the machine that wasn’t my fault, but I’ve had plenty that were my fault. Chips and debris between the domino and the workpiece throwing the resulting joint out of wack are a common cause of expletives in my shop, so watch out for that. Practice helps, as with all woodworking.

]]> By: Rob http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-domino-effect/#comment-1501 Rob Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:27:47 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=419#comment-1501 Hi Tico, I think you're asking the right questions but I'm afraid I don't have the answers. The Domino has worked well for me with frame and panels. The learning curve is quick once you settle on a method to hold the work, which should be a simple one. I have put a couple of sample joints through my 3-pound-drill-hammer-smash test and they did very well but I can't really say for sure how they would hold up over time. I would think the loose tenons would be a good way to improve a cope and stick joint's stub tenon but I do not have experience with that. Hope this helps a bit. Rob Hi Tico,

I think you’re asking the right questions but I’m afraid I don’t have the answers. The Domino has worked well for me with frame and panels. The learning curve is quick once you settle on a method to hold the work, which should be a simple one.

I have put a couple of sample joints through my 3-pound-drill-hammer-smash test and they did very well but I can’t really say for sure how they would hold up over time. I would think the loose tenons would be a good way to improve a cope and stick joint’s stub tenon but I do not have experience with that.

Hope this helps a bit.

Rob

]]> By: tico vogt http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-domino-effect/#comment-1499 tico vogt Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:36:57 +0000 http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/?p=419#comment-1499 Hi Rob, Your post on the Domino Machine is interestingly timed, in that I am about to build a custom kitchen, and this is a machine I've considered buying for just this application. I have never had a problem with any door using haunched mortice and tenon joinery, going back twenty eight years. The question really involves the issue of convenience and time/profitability. All the steps that go into a traditional joint, as you know, add up, and the allure of a couple of pulls of the trigger is strong... however, will a frame and panel door using a domino hold up like a haunched 1 1/4" tenon over time? What kinds of joinery situations do you feel make this tool a worthy investment for you, and how much time might you spend getting to know its operation before having the confidence to set up a small batch of doors, for example? Hi Rob,
Your post on the Domino Machine is interestingly timed, in that I am about to build a custom kitchen, and this is a machine I’ve considered buying for just this application. I have never had a problem with any door using haunched mortice and tenon joinery, going back twenty eight years. The question really involves the issue of convenience and time/profitability. All the steps that go into a traditional joint, as you know, add up, and the allure of a couple of pulls of the trigger is strong… however, will a frame and panel door using a domino hold up like a haunched 1 1/4″ tenon over time?
What kinds of joinery situations do you feel make this tool a worthy investment for you, and how much time might you spend getting to know its operation before having the confidence to set up a small batch of doors, for example?

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